William The Coroner’s Forensic Files

Wednesday, 31, August, 2011

If You Aren’t Outraged, You Aren’t Paying Attention

Francesca Rice is a veteran. She owns firearms. Lakewood OH police heard about it, came to her condo, got the super to let them in and took them. Ms. Rice was not arrested, she wasn’t home, they just came an took her property. Ms. Rice owns them legally, but the cops will not return the weapons, worth over $15,000 without a court order. So she’s suing them. Story is HERE (Hat tip, Misfit)

If the people who did this weren’t wearing ugly blue polyester uniforms, this would be called “Grand Theft” and “Breaking and Entering”. The Earth-Bound Misfit suggests sending a copy of the United States Constitution to the Lakewood Chief of Police. I concur.

Chief of Police Timothy J. Malley
Lakewood City Hall
12650 Detroit Avenue
Lakewood, Ohio 44107

Also, the cash-strapped city of Cleveland (who is laying off police officers) is spending money and time on a gun registration program that is a. voluntary and b. has no data about efficacy whatsoever.

This might be a radical idea, but if you’re short of money and crime is a problem, you might want to stop hassling the law-abiding, and shift resources to, oh, I don’t know, actually catching criminals.

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7 Comments »

  1. That she’s a veteran is immaterial…but those cops are idiots. They can’t possibly win this since their actions were flagrantly illegal and unjustified.

    Comment by Shay — Thursday, 1, September, 2011 @ 17:33 | Reply

    • Well, an honourably discharged veteran 1. you know has a clean record and 2. paid dues for service to their country. Now, the right to self-defense is an inherent human right, that cannot be “earned” but it is disgusting that someone who spent time and effort to guard the rights of others had their rights stomped on.

      Comment by williamthecoroner — Friday, 2, September, 2011 @ 09:16

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  3. Well…I’m an honorably discharged veteran and I’ve never figured that gave me more protection from illegal search and seizure that any other American citizen. It’s disgusting when anybody has their rights stomped on.

    I hope that PD gets it’s collective ass handed to it on a platter.

    Comment by Shay — Friday, 2, September, 2011 @ 21:51 | Reply

    • No, being a vet doesn’t give you more rights. Though it is insulting, and base ingratitude, on top of the illegal bullying.

      Comment by williamthecoroner — Friday, 2, September, 2011 @ 22:22

  4. One of the comments on the blog you linked to says there is a police report saying that she was missing involuntarily from the VA hospital and was considered a danger to herself and to others. *If* that is the case, then I can understand why they took the guns and why they have not returned them. A gun owning veteran with psychiatric problems can certainly be a danger to society .

    Comment by anonymous — Tuesday, 6, September, 2011 @ 22:21 | Reply

    • Anon–if the person was involuntarily committed, they cannot possess firearms. BUT the person needs to be probated, and have that right taken away with due process. This person was not. The cops have to give them back, otherwise it’s just stealing.

      Comment by williamthecoroner — Tuesday, 6, September, 2011 @ 22:57


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