William The Coroner’s Forensic Files

Sunday, 11, July, 2010

Words of Wisdom

Filed under: Links to Greatness — williamthecoroner @ 09:43

via tgace:

It is better to avoid than to run; better to run than to de-escalate; better to de-escalate than to fight; better to fight than to die. The very essence of self-defense is a thin list of things that might get you out alive when you are already screwed. – From “Meditations on Violence” by Rory Miller



  1. I don’t necessarily agree on these… Turning your back is a good way to get stabbed/shot or both. Just sayin…

    Comment by Old NFO — Sunday, 11, July, 2010 @ 15:13 | Reply

    • The whole point is to stay OUT of trouble. To de-escalate, back off, and disengage whenever possible. To make sure you know yourself that you have done nothing to provoke a confrontation.

      Comment by williamthecoroner — Sunday, 11, July, 2010 @ 15:56

  2. Exactly.

    The BEST way to avoid violence is through CHOICE. Choice of hobbies, choice of hang-outs, choice of “friends” and associates, choice of illegal activity and choice of lifestyle. In other words AVOID.

    The next best option is to not let your ego or your self-doubt kill you. Don’t stick around because you are not a “coward” or because you don’t want to “overreact”…leave (or RUN).

    If you can’t leave then try to de-esclate. Apologize, let the other guy think you are a coward..if it gets you out unharmed then thats a WIN..DE-ESCALATE.

    If you have to fight, then fight, but like the author said; surviving a real self-defense situation depends on a thin list of options to get you out of a situation where you are already screwed.

    Comment by tgace — Monday, 12, July, 2010 @ 04:30 | Reply

  3. Avoidance is one thing, but when you’ve ‘stepped in it’ either accidentally or you get jumped, by and large you ARE going to have to fight your way out. Granted too many walk around in Condition White and don’t pay attention to their surroundings, but if you’re smart and alert, you CAN avoid most situations. I will never go looking for a fight, because I hate the paperwork involved, but I WILL defend myself and my family.

    I was involved in an incident where the lady and I were walking a block to a restaurant in Alexandria, VA on a cold Saturday night and I saw 4 punks come out of an alley mid-block. We crossed the street, they crossed the street (clearly intending to force the situation). We stopped, then stepped into a doorway; I had her call 911, and I opened my jacket so that I had access to my defensive pistol. I put her behind me and waited. They came up and started taunting us trying to provoke us and threatening moves were made, but they never produced a weapon per se. We stayed quiet and didn’t change positions, nor did we respond, but I never took my hand off my pistol nor did I ever pull it. They heard the siren coming, cussed us and took off back into the alley. The lady was shaken, but we walked away no harm, no foul. The officer asked my why I hadn’t taken out/used my weapon, I told him they perps had not gotten inside the Teuller drill range. He immediately understood and complimented us on our reaction and told us that call was the third that night about the perps. In the other instances, people had tried to run, been caught and beaten.

    Comment by Old NFO — Monday, 12, July, 2010 @ 19:45 | Reply

  4. Good move..you didn’t fight. That story would fall in at the far end of the DE-ESCALATE spectrum. You tried “running or avoiding” by changing street sides etc. When that didn’t work you did what you did.

    Seems to fall into Millers example to me.

    Comment by tgace — Tuesday, 13, July, 2010 @ 01:08 | Reply

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